If you've been following
my Twitter feed over the past few days you might have seen that there's a bit of a heated discussion between
Justin McKeating,
Flying Rodent,
Daniel HG,
Branes and I over the current situation in Syria.
Since last March thousands of Syrians have been killed by their own government simply for saying "We want you out".
Daniel & I take the view that "enough is enough" -
sanctions have clearly failed, as have
attempts to resolve the situation peacefully - and in any event there are certain acts which no government should be allowed to do, i.e. kill vast numbers of its own population.
The others don't. As far as I can tell - and I'm happy for be corrected - the opposition seems to boil down to "It'll be another Iraq" and/or "
It's about control of oil" or we (by which I'm assuming means western countries) lack the "moral authority" due to historical reasons.*
I take the view that something along the lines of
Libya,
Bosnia, or
Kosovo should be done - outside action to stop the slaughter. I accept that there would be causalities, both civilian and military, but consider that is the least worst option in the circumstances.
I'll assume that even the most vehemently opposed to the use of force would accept that there is a limit on the number of deaths after which other countries should get involved in the situation.
So the question is, what is that limit? Is it a certain number or percentage of the population? Is it over a certain time-frame.
UPDATE: On a related note,
I find this piece about the reaction of Chinese bloggers interesting, and the cartoon very appropriate.
UPDATE:
This piece from Raincoat Optimism from January goes into more detail about the positives and negatives.
* Frankly, I consider Iraq to be a false comparison due to their being significant differences - e.g. it's clearly not an attempt to settle old scores (we have none!)/find any excuse to invade (the situation has been going on for almost a year, without any suggestion that the Syrian government would stop killing people) and it's clear that the people want to get rid of their government - while claims about it simply being about oil are complete load of bollocks - Syria's main export is oil, of which Europe is its biggest consumer. We had (prior to the sanctions) very easy access to it - in fact they were completely dependant upon our business! If you have easy access to anything - especially when you're the only customer - you don't take out your suppliers. In fact - and unfortunately when it comes to oil - you support them no matter what, like we do with Bahrain and Saudi Arabia. As for moral authority, while I accept that western government have fucked about in the past, that's not an argument against resolving the situation.